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January 3rd, 2016, 12:00 pm

Zombie Cinnamon Coffee

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More frequent updates on Patreon (We began submitting the chapter 8 and page 0-3 already available)
https://www.patreon.com/zccoffee

Also more arts and sketches on Tumblr:
http://zombiecinnamon.tumblr.com/

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January 3rd, 2016, 12:26 pm

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Can't wait to see what's next~ <3

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January 4th, 2016, 1:02 am

WarriorNun

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Oh crap...

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January 4th, 2016, 1:52 am

Guest (Guest)

Finally Caught Up!

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For a little bit, I must admit, I was worried that this entire matter would be dropped as it is in many, many bl manga. I'm glad it wasn't! Though, I'm still not certain I could ever want to see these two together in a relationship. It feels too much like that bible passage which forces a woman to marry her rapist and live with him/with the constant reminder of her trauma and I find the idea of that all very disturbing.

But, after this, I feel more inclined to go ahead and trust the creators of the comic. So, if they do end up together, I trust there will be one heck of an explanation.

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June 10th, 2016, 6:50 pm

Samsama

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@Guest: i do get that he took advantage of Ivo and all, but rape? i mean, i can't afford the patron thing so i didn't read the actual sex scene, so i'm actually kind of lost at why dragosh is being treated as a sexoffender here...
either way, as far as i can follow, it doesn't seem like actual rape? so if he makes up for, idk, getting dragged away by his feelings when Ivo was weak and hazy... it wouldn't be that weird, right? i honestly don't know how to feel about all this, but i do hope they get together. and honestly, ivo did kiss/bite him earlier? don't really know what to think of the violence in that act either, but...
god i am so confused now haha

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January 4th, 2016, 3:04 am

sweetea

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How did you fuck up so hard man?

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January 4th, 2016, 6:27 pm

MarkOfMana (Guest)

Both to Blame

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Okay, I had to write this comment, just to finally stop my eye from twitching at the past chapter or two. I've seen a lot of people bashing on Dragosh for what he did and I find it incredibly irritating. Maybe the context in the Patreon pages would make my thinking a bit different. But at no point did Ivo ever say NO to Dragosh's advances. He DID react as if he was ENJOYING it. So the fact that Ivo is this mad and condescending to Dragosh is irritating for the fact that he puts ALL blame on his so-called "best friend" who he was "so happy to see". Ivo even commented plenty on his own confusing feelings, that he was feeling different things for Dragosh, that things felt RIGHT with him, "as it should be". So I'm sorry, but I don't find Ivo to be some innocent rape victim at all. He didn't say no, he didn't fight (at least not in the pages presented around the Patreon ones, again, I don't know the context of those and it could make this entire argument of mine completely invalid).

Then AFTER he is supposedly SO angry at Dragosh's first time with advances, he goes and BITES at Dragosh and provokes him. The cycle started all over. With Dragosh acting on impulse and the APPEARANCE that Ivo wanted to do more. Again, Ivo doesn't say NO, doesn't FIGHT, doesn't try to stop him. Ivo's entire argument is based on, "I wasn't myself, and you knew that". No, Dragosh apparently DIDN'T know that. How COULD he know that Ivo was acting differently than himself? Dragosh doesn't even know how Ivo really acts anymore BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SEEN EACH OTHER IN YEARS! Dragosh was presumed DEAD for crying out loud. And Ivo is just assuming that the man should immediately know how he normally is? That is HIGHLY unfair.

So, in my opinion, they are BOTH to blame for the MISCOMMUNICATION. But Ivo shouldn't be acting like some poor rape victim when he initiated the SECOND encounter, after fully knowing at that point how Dragosh felt about him, and what he could do to Ivo.

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January 6th, 2016, 1:28 pm

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@MarkOfMana:

Consent is not the absence of "no."

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January 5th, 2016, 8:01 pm

raziesgirl (Guest)

This is pretty deep

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Emotionally that is neither of them have a clue of just what is happening their both running on raw emotions right know . Both of them have changed since they last saw each other for so long Dragosh was presumed missing and or dead so when they finally meet again Ivo's still thinks of Dragosh as the friend that he knew before Dragosh disappeared . But Dragosh who's always thought of Ivo as more than just friend after having missed Ivo for so long has him right there with him it's just the two of them and to Dragosh Ivo is responding to his advances not realizing that it's the drugs that he's given Ivo lost control of himself . I won't presume to know just what Dragosh was thinking and of course because Ivo responded or it seemed like it to Dragosh he than assumed that Ivo was alright with what happened between them that he's genuinely surprised by Ivo's reaction Dragosh doesn't get that a human body will respond even if a person doesn't want to himself . Plus Ivo was in a drugged state and had no control over himself which Dragosh wasn't aware of all he knew was that the person that he was in love with was responding to his feelings . So I can't blame Dragosh for being is clueless about what he's done but than again Dragosh should have known that something wasn't rifgt about Ivo's behavior plus Dragosh didn't know if Ivo had someone special to him back home for all he knew Ivo could have been married since he was presumed dead . So yeah Dragosh did do something unforgivable to Ivo they haven't even talked about what happened to Dragosh yet because Ivo was hurt and all Ivo knows is that he's had sex twice with his best friend and he doesn't know why it happened in the first place plus he's worried about his companions what's happened to them Ivo doesn't know if their dead or alive he's dealing with a lot right now . So first Ivo has to come to terms with the fact that Dragosh is in love with him and Dragosh has to realize that Ivo doesn't see him in that way at least not yet . they have been away from each other for to long they have to get to know each other all over again .

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January 6th, 2016, 4:39 am

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I just what to point out to those who keep saying Ivo was in a drugged state and Dragosh didn't know- he is the one that drugged Ivo. Dragosh also personally knows that his own self is no longer human. This should make it obvious that his own body would respond to things differently than Ivos body will. Actually, he took that difference in to account when he was saving his friend. Since only he(a unique non human) Had gone down that hole... water stuff? He didn't know if Ivo would survive it like he had. That shows he is capable of putting those things in to consideration. That means he should have realized any drugs he put in Ivos system may respond differently to a humans body. When making use of medicine, one should always consider possible side effects, not just if it works or not. It's Dragosh' fault he is in this situation he is in now. If he had WAITED until Ivo wasn't drugged, then things could have developed whole both were of the right mind. He had waited YEARS, a few more days wouldn't have killed him.

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